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bertandnairobi

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1980 Lancia Trevi

Even Beta: Lancia´s thrilling new Trevi
Track & Motoring, July 1981

Archie Vicar takes a look at an exciting new sporting luxury saloon from Italy´s respected Lancia marque.

Photos by Greg Orford

Introduction
Without any doubt Lancia´s engineers have been scratching their heads since 1972, trying to think of a way to top the terrific Beta. Despite its front-drive handicap and an engine donated by Fiat, it really is a cracking car, with much to commend it. So how do they go better than the very best? Simple, they don´t. The Beta Trevi has a different interior and new body panels. But the underpinnings of the Beta are all still there and, some say, thank goodness for that. The Beta Trevi was shown in Geneva about a year ago but it´s only now available in the United Kingdom. We tested a 2 litre model to find out Lancia´s formula for building on their achievements of the 70s and taking them into the 'eighties.

Background
Taking the excellent foundations of the Beta as a their basis, Lancia have been quite ingenious in retaining not a few of that car´s better points and adding some new details. The original Beta was a four-door saloon despite its fastback looks (much like the Citroen GS). Very cleverly, the Beta Trevi is also a four door saloon but it has a boldly cut notchback to prove it. So, now Lancia has not one but two four-door saloons in its line-up: one for people who want saloons that look like hatchbacks and another for people who want their saloon to look upright and boxy.

The Beta Trevi´s engines are also the same as those found in the Beta Berlina: a sprightly 1600 and a sporty 2000. A choice of Weber or Solex carburetors is available. The suspension is fully independent. McPherson struts and coils are positioned all the way around the car, which is handy since the same type of tyre is used on all four wheels too. Those wheels are Pirelli P6 185/65HR 14" radials. As per the Beta, a screw-pillar jack is provided and the screen wipers have two-speeds plus an intermittent setting. So, that´s the Lancia Beta Trevi in overview.

Getting inside the car
Once inside the car, many drivers will notice that the interior is subtly different from many other vehicles. Perhaps inspired by Munich, the dashboard is very much shaped with the driver in mind. The main gauges and dials are recessed in deep tubes all angled towards a point just below the driver´s eyeline. Lancia´s own brochure describes the innovation: "The main instruments are arranged directly in front of the driver." And interestingly, the passenger can see nothing of what the driver is doing speedwise, which is very handy for car with the Beta Trevi´s sporting intent. The seats are very soft and wide thus allowing a lot of freedom for movement, ideal on a long journey on motorways.

A pet hate of mine is losing things in car interiors. I can´t tell you how many Mont Blancs and Bics I´ve lost in test cars, and how many pairs of spectacles, lighters, pipes, boxes of matches and the like that have been lost with them. The Beta Trevi avoids this hazard by having almost nowhere to store personal effects, apart from a small, odd-shaped declivity just to the right of the gear stick. It would be excellent if other manufacturers could also save our time and theirs by stopping the race to have the most places to mislay vital bits of falderal. Incidentally, if you really do have to find somewhere to put things, simply don´t order a radio with your Beta Trevi. It´s not a standard item and the resultant hole in the dash would be a good nook into which to cast a pack of Craven "A" or y

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Goatboy

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Re: 1980 Lancia Trevi

car4mh said:

Was the verdict that a Beta Berlina was better than a Trevi? Or that the Trevi corrected many of the Beta's flaws at the expense of introducing a few new ones?


From memory (and some old Autocar's and Motor's) I think the motoring press remained fond of the Beta, despite it's propensity to self-destruct. It was, in the early 70's, a notably superior proposition to a great many rival marques offerings - at least on paper. Motor ran an early Beta 1800 ES as a long term test car and apart from some misgivings about the sunroof and some of the ES-model equipment (and some early signs of rust) they gave it high marks. 

Car's GBU Dec 1979 has this; For: Crisp engines, room, comfort, quality. Against: Heavy steering
Sum-up: Fine value.

Perhaps this indulgence carried over into the Trevi models and the hard-charging Motor journalists favoured the Lancia's eager handling characteristics. Certainly, even in 1981, there was still a great deal of deadly-dull fodder about. It could be said that Fiat got an easier ride than they deserved over Lancia's failings during this period, but as we saw, this would not last. What did for the Trevi above all else, was it's styling - inside and out. Now, I quite like it, but it would have to be said that the Beta was a more attractive looking car - especially in series 3 form. In my Pininfarina retrospective the final series Beta Berlina is down as a 'Farina project. It neglects to mention the Trevi, so I presume that was an internal design. 

Finally, chapeau to B&N for another fine piece of work. Nice to have Archie back...

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bertandnairobi

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It´ll be fascinating to see how a named journalist from CAR views the Trevi. All the other tests are anoymous. I expect a bit more colour than is found in the Autocar, Motor and Which? articles.

About the rust issue: we´re still talking about it. The truth is that Lancia´s sales dropped by a third but soon recovered again. Sometime afterwards the rust problem became a self-supporting part of the Lancia myth. Unlike Skoda who have killed their reputation for making rubbish, Lancia never got to grips with the PR aspects of what was a short lived quality problem. You could write a PhD on how this topic took on a life of its own. Just after the Beta "scandal" the matter seemed to have been fading quickly away.

The "respected" adjective probably was intended to refer to a longer time period than the immediate past of rotting Betas. It sounds odd to our ears though since I at least would have assumed a greater focus on the problem in the aftermath.


 "Was the verdict that a Beta Berlina was better than a Trevi? Or that the Trevi corrected many of the Beta's flaws at the expense of introducing a few new ones?" asks car4mh. It seems the Beta was better and worse. Power steering addressed a major flaw in the Beta. But the revised styling was a step back as was the worsened interior packaging. The problems of cold-starting and rather heavy fuel consumption remained. On balance, it seems they thought that subjectively the Trevi was a bit better but the wierd interior and exterior really dragged it down. By 1982 it was clearly a design well-past its use-by date.
 

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bertandnairobi

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"From memory (and some old Autocar's and Motor's) I think the motoring press remained fond of the Beta, despite it's propensity to self-destruct." This is true. The Beta was on paper a very good car. One writer from the US said it should be required driving for every engineer in Detroit.


"Car's GBU Dec 1979 has this; For: Crisp engines, room, comfort, quality. Against: Heavy steering
Sum-up: Fine value." Interesting, not a word about the r-word. 

The Beta was always the better-looking car. My affection for the Trevi is due entirely to its odd looks. It´s an underdog. I presume that the reception the car got was made more favourable because some particular aspects of the car were clearly so good, namely steering and the ride quality. I imagine that for many this could compensate for the demerits, when the alternative was a homogenous but bland Ford or Vauxhall. All the same, Fiat, BMW and Alfa offered cars that were more rounded and yet charismatic. While I am here, the vast range of cars against which the Trevi was thought to compete is striking. I take this to mean it must have been in some way unfocused. Was the Trevi buyer really also considering ten other cars as diverse as the CX, BMW 3, Saab 900, Ford Cortina, Renault 18, Alfa Romeo Giulia, Peugeot 505 and several others. I think Lancia couldn´t decide even then whether Lancia was a sporting or a luxury. It tried to do both and didn´t excel at either.
 

 

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Incidentally, I had a look at the German, French, Spanish and Italian Wikipedie entrants for the Trevi and the English one is by the far the most comprehensive and well referenced. Medal, please.

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Goatboy

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 For the record, Car April 1983 had this to say about the Beta - which was by then only available as a 1.6 saloon. Interestingly, the entire Lancia range had been relegated to 'Adequate' by then...

For: Comfortable, roomy, cocoon-like body
Against: Lacks hatchback; 2.0litre (now finished) was a better thing
Sum-up: Nice car once; left behind by lack of development. Lack of supporting range makes it an orphan. Hurts resale.

I won't spoil your anticipation bertandnairobi by including the Trevi's GBU review. Or indeed Car's Sept 1981 newcomers review. (Happy to supply if required though...)

Did the Beta kill Lancia in the UK? No. Poor cars, poor quality, poor reliability and an uncaring dealer/distribution network did. Post-Beta/Trevi Lancia's were mediocre cars, whose Fiat underpinnings were abundantly apparent, especially against the German quality marques. Who will remember the Prisma or the Dedra with any affection for example? 

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My copy of CAR November 1981 showed up in the post today. In it the Lancia Trevi 2000 was giant-tested against the Citroen CX and Saab 900. Here´s how I´ve summed it up for the entry on Wikipedia:

The view of the UK´s Car magazine in November 1981 [12] was that the Trevi´s main strength was handling with strong grip and "truly excellent balance that pleases and rewards a keen driver." The magazine cross-compared the Trevi 2000 with Citroen´s CX Reflex and the Saab 900 GLs. The Lancia Trevi won the test, being "the fastest and best handling of the trio". The car´s principle demerits were its "bland"[13] "inappropriately conservative styling" [14]and the dashboard which was "diabolical to use." The front seats were considered as lacking in lumbar support. CAR´s opinion was favourable concerning the performance which it described as being due to the evenly-spread close ratios[15] which had "a fairly low first and a top which allows the engine to go past peak power at maximum speed." This gave the Lancia "a distinct edge in terms of lower overall gearing." This helped because the Lancia had more torque and a lower weight than the cars to which it was being compared. Also relative to the test cars, the Lancia had a gearchange "as slick as silk with well-judged spring loading into the third/fourth plane, and appeared to need no more than a quick dip of the clutch to snatch changes." The Lancia came second to the Citroen in fuel consumption. The Lancia´s test consumption was 24 mpg to the Citroen CX 2.0 litre´s 27.9 mpg. Under the heading of comfort, the Lancia´s springing and damping were praised for their gentle firmness though it was bested by the Saab 900 GLs. The driver´s seat received commendation for its general comfort, being softer than the Saab and allowing more freedom to change position than the Citroen CX. The seats was felt to lack lumbar support. Under accomodation the Trevi´s rear passenger room was viewed as being sufficient, on a par with the Saab. Only comparatively did the luggage volume lose points, due the other two tested cars being "exceptional"[16].Under the heading of driver appeal the Trevi was "badly let down by the gimmicky and over-styled facia design." Visibility was held to be "good" due to the car´s squared-off extremities. The main beam was good but the dipped beam described as "miserable" and "falling short of the point of safety if the car is being driven fast." Due to the chassis layout, steering characteristics and the choice of tyre, CAR´s view was that the handling was very consistent with high levels of grip and a readiness to hold the required line of driving during cornering. Lifting off the throttle during cornering caused slight over-steer by "a few degrees."

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What I didn´t write (and can´t with Wikipedia) is what CAR didn´t mention. They didn´t hint at the troublesome engine during cold starting, the reduced rear accomodation, the lack of oddments storage, the unremarkable build-quality or the lift-off oversteer. All in all, you´d imagine they were describing a BMW 520 with the wrong dashboard. I wonder if CAR was somehow biased due to their fond regard for Lancia. CAR even thought that the Trevi would help Lancia restore its reputation in the years ahead....Indeed.

So, now I think I´ve got to the bottom of the Lancia Trevi. I´d still like to drive one and the car is now back on its podium as the main alternative to my fantasy classic of-choice, the Peugeot 604. What I need to do is to get one of each and test them back to back and then decide. In the meantime, I am still intrigued with the Trevi. I like its odd appearance and I find the idea of a compact, luxurious saloon with nimble handling very appealing. Does anyone think that a well-specced Ford Focus Ghia saloon with the right tyres would be a good modern equivalent?

 

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Goatboy: I added that snippet from CAR 1983 to the Wikipedia page. The one remaining thing to get a hold of might be a review of the Volumex version: hard, considering it was not sold in the UK.

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While I was amending the Trevi page at Wikipedia I also took a moment to add some information on the page of Mario Bellini, who did the dashboard design. I did that bit of work about a year ago. Just now I went to have another look as I was linking the two pages. And what do you know, but my reference to the Trevi dashboard had been removed. Bellini´s career is stellar. He´s an accomplished designer and architect so I don´t see why it´s a problem to have one or two misses among so many hits. His page mentions he did work for Renault in the early 70s. Does anyone know what this was (I could look and see what they launched in the period but that would be just a guess...)

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bertandnairobi said:

(...) Bellini´s career is stellar. He´s an accomplished designer and architect so I don´t see why it´s a problem to have one or two misses among so many hits. His page mentions he did work for Renault in the early 70s. Does anyone know what this was (I could look and see what they launched in the period but that would be just a guess...)



 

 

Maybe the 'ribbed' dashboard of the original R5?

 

 

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