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Batty

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Batty says:

How important is your engine?

OK all, a golden rule here first. Please don't let this degenerate into a debate about green issues, there is already a topic about that with very strong viewpoints. What I would like to know is: how important is the engine to your car enthusiasm?

The one thing that I don't look forward to is a silent future. I'm concerned that if or when electric or hybrid cars or the norm (REMEMBER MY GOLDEN RULE), I won't be able to here the lovely sound of mechanical interaction and exhaust. I love cars and part of the reason is the sound. The sound of a 24 F1 car grid (Super Augri was still going then) tearing into the first corner at Melbourne this year still gives me goosebumps even as I type this. As a child I recall seeing Alain Prost's McLaren and being in awe of how many and how frequent his gear changes were. I spent two years of my childhood perfecting a replica sound.  Ford Sierras, wastegates whistling at Bathurst being chased by V8 Holdens blaring with a rich gutteral roar and the BMW M3s  (4 cylinder) working like shrill, caramalised, overlockers trying in vain to catch up. Fantastic! 

Have you ever stopped in the street as a Ferrari wails past? Get goosebumps as a Porsche thrums by, gaining life and enthusiasm as it accelerates? Hear the old Alfa or Fiat twin cam four blat by and swivel your head in acknowledgement? What about the Impezza thrum and hiss as it passes? This noise may be lost to us and I for one am saddened by it.

Do you feel the same, or do you accept that in much the same fashion as full power opposite locking your rear wheel drive sports car is no longer possible due to most cars FWD packaging benefits is something we will lose in the quest for a more efficient life balance?

Let me know, especially if you are outside of the UK as I am. (Proud Aussie, don't mention the Olympics)

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livc44411

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livc44411 says:

Re: How important is your engine?

Scooby flat 4! So easily recongnisable and beautiful! That is one sound I am going to miss in the future no doubt about it....As to whether I could excited by a car that doesnt make any sound at all,I dont think so! But its the future and we have to accept it and as individual car enthusiast we have to try and save as many 'real cars' as we can now for storage before they all get crushed or dissapear thats for sure

-Focus RS,Megane RS,you gotta love 'em-

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lanciamug

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lanciamug says:

Re: How important is your engine?

Well, 20 odd years ago, being younger, childless and ,therefore, richer, I subscribed to Fast Lane (in addition to Car, obviously). Editor Dron was one of my heroes and several times gave away cassette tapes (remember them) of the cars tested on track.  I remember being infatuated with the noise produced by a 911 and excited by the F40.  Nowadays the offbeat thrum of the hard driven Impreza takes some beating, as does the 'Ayrton Senna howl' of Hondas vtec engines.

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a t o m i c

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a t o m i c says:

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Flat sixes sound lovely - the 911, Boxster, Cayman and Subaru Legacy are the places to find one. Some V6s can also be wonderful, I used to have a Mazda Xedos 6 with a little pearl of a V6 that absolutely SANG at high revs, shame they never built the 4 litre V12 that they had planned. BMW straight sixes are widely reknowned, but it's the amazing exhaust of the latter i6 M3 that really created that incredible engine note. And who can resist the V4 of a Honda VFR 'bike? Or the ecstasy of a Ferrari V12? V8s don't really do it for me, they always sound a bit American somehow.

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Batty

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Batty says:

Re: How important is your engine?

Thank you, all three of you for your responses. We all seem to like the Imprezza, must be that unusual noise, like a VW beetle that someone remembered to put oil in! To me the air cooled flay four of the VW always sounds, "scratchy" and tight, like you can actually hear the pisotns wearing their liners.

I like the cultured sound of the Porsche 6 as well atomic, although there really is something about a V8 at full revs that sounds like lion roaring through treacle. Ferrari v8s sound different again, a bit more like the Porsche I suppose, louder yet more refined.

 

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pete917

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pete917 says:

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Engines - their power and their sound are everything to me.  I love listening to perfromance cars and the sound they make.  It will be a sad day when its all gobe quiet!

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ga41

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ga41 says:

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It wont go all quiet.. You'll be able to play the noise of a pushrod V8 from the carefully concealed speakers on the outside of your electric car.. Kinda sad if you think about it.

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pete917

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pete917 says:

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ga41 said:

It wont go all quiet.. You'll be able to play the noise of a pushrod V8 from the carefully concealed speakers on the outside of your electric car.. Kinda sad if you think about it.


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Oh I so hope not.  I think I'll give up driving if that happens.  Or shoot myself maybe

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Robby1977

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Robby1977 says:

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pete917 said:
ga41 said:

It wont go all quiet.. You'll be able to play the noise of a pushrod V8 from the carefully concealed speakers on the outside of your electric car.. Kinda sad if you think about it.


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Oh I so hope not.  I think I'll give up driving if that happens.  Or shoot myself maybe



 

My 2 biggest fears in the motoring world are that A) black boxs, or something comparable will feature in all cars, either restricting how your car is driven, OR automatically sending you out a speeding ticket if you go 1 MPH over the speed limit & B) a silent world of non petrol cars! 

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pete917 said:
ga41 said:

It wont go all quiet.. You'll be able to play the noise of a pushrod V8 from the carefully concealed speakers on the outside of your electric car.. Kinda sad if you think about it.


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Oh I so hope not.  I think I'll give up driving if that happens.  Or shoot myself maybe


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OK, I'm staging an intervention - Pete, don't shoot yourself! 

There will be noise. Maybe not the noise we're used to, and maybe we'll have far more control over the noise pallette than we do at the moment (through noise cancellation, synthesised noise or similar tech), but there definitely will be noise.  

If the mainstream cars go silent, you'll just have to switch your piston-engined classic car to eco-methanol or whatever the alt-fuel of the future becomes and enjoy that instead.  

Would I miss piston-engine noise? Definitely, but I'd miss driving a self-propelled independently-piloted car much more.

 

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pete917

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pete917 says:

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Many years ago for my sins I worked on a project adding defence technologu into cars.  This included radar, lidar, head up displaces, night vision, infra red, ejection seat technology for safety belts, stear and drive by wire.  It was an awesome project and as a rselt some technologies have been incorporated into today's cars.  I once sat in a totally autonomous car driving round the A5 in france.  It was very scarey and personally didnt like not being in control.  Unfrtunately I can see it happening one day.  

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