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Batty

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Batty says:

Re: Forgotten cars of the last 35 years

AReader said:
Batty said:

Gotcha VW SP2!

I only like playing this game when I know the cars. That was too bloody hard!



 

Well done! I used "nuts" as a subtle clue to the car's Brazilian origin. Probably too subtle! Bonus points were available for pointing out that the SP stands for Sao Paulo. I imagine the car might have been popular with Fittipaldi wannabees in the mid-70s.

I hope this next one has not been done before.


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Renault 5 sedan?

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.

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Batty

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Batty says:

Re: Forgotten cars of the last 35 years

Or a Renault 7 then.

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha.

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AReader

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lokinen said:
AReader said:

This one might drive you nuts!


that was so easy, Brazilian vw based and anothe observer book favourite.

somebody will do the wllys one next....probably.



 

Perhaps I had forgotten about the SP2, but it seemed like a brand new discovery a week or two back when I found the Hotwheels version at my local Target store. Painted orange, I just had to have it! Once I got it home I did the compulsory Google to check it out. It fit nicely in the 35 year window of this thread. The Kaiser Darrin should be in a Forgotten cars of the Fifties and Sixties thread really - but a fun car none-the-less.

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AReader

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Re: Forgotten cars of the last 35 years

Batty said:

Or a Renault 7 then.



 

Yes. A common sight on Spanish roads in the 70s. I've never seen them anywhere else, so I thought it might be a little trickier. I tried to make it tricky by showing the rear of the car to try to disguise the Renault 5 origins. Should have guessed it would not pose too much of a challenge.

How about this? OK, I know it's a bit out of our time window.....

Update: A day later,...... I added some more pics. The color one kind of gives it away now. But looking at the position of the door, I'm not sure it is the same car as the racecar. Anyway, Emile Claveau built some interesting prototypes and cars from the 1920s to the 1950s. He was interested in aerodynamics, unusual powertrain layouts and front wheel drive. Bit like Citroen non?

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Batty

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AR- It was the wheelarches that gave it away.

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Batty

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Thinking on your next one, a serious challenge

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robinstp

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MATRA - whatever happened to this great name that provided the engines for Jackie Stewart to win his and Graham Hill as well I think Formula one crowns. A fabulous engine  so compact for those late 60'S

Somewhere in the ack of my mind was a Matra Simca = total disaster road car - but where is that name today!! Probably related to the aero business but not in cars much to the detriment of design and excellence ( oh yes I know it was French!! - but the Pug 504 was a great car then too!)

time to move over

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bertandnairobi

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Areader: We did that one two years ago (Renault Five with a boot). But it was great to see it again. Martin Buckley is writing a twin-volume book (for Palawan) about it and Richard Heseltine is doing another feature on it in C&C arguing it was the first true small saloon and the spiritial forefather to the booted Polo, Seat Cordobo and the Ford Fiesta saloon.

Batty: The road test reviews mentioned failures such as fouled fuel filter, rubber window trim that leaked, fraying upholstery, carpet coming free of its moorings, dead alternatators, doors not shutting properly, inconsistent panel gaps,inconsistent noises (i.e. two supposedly identical models making different noises). This doesn´t cover the rust problems we mentioned. One period article described a HPE owner who had to replace the front wings after a year and whose a-pillar base was rusting. The very first road tests of the Beta showed photos of rusting sunroof edges and other such horrors.

I think if built as well as they were designed the Lancias might have been good but plainly there was some form of industrial death wish at the factories, of which the rusting steel was but one albeit big part. If we pull on this little thread and see where it goes we find that in the 70s Italy was undergoing an low-grade civil war according to Tobias Jones in the "The Dark Heart of Italy." The poor Lancia was one of the smaller victims in the cross-fire.

Your point about the Trevi being a truly orphaned car is memorable: designed as a Citroen, built by Lancia with Fiat bits and turned into a saloon worse than the hatch it was based on. Superb!

 

 

 

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Sam the Eagle

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Re: Forgotten cars of the last 35 years

robinstp said:

MATRA - whatever happened to this great name that provided the engines for Jackie Stewart to win his and Graham Hill as well I think Formula one crowns. A fabulous engine  so compact for those late 60'S

Somewhere in the ack of my mind was a Matra Simca = total disaster road car - but where is that name today!! Probably related to the aero business but not in cars much to the detriment of design and excellence ( oh yes I know it was French!! - but the Pug 504 was a great car then too!)


 

The last car project Matra was involved in was the Avantime. Since then part of the car business has been sold to Pininfarina, and what is left is mostly focusing on E/V's so we may well hear about them before long.

The rest of the business is now either under the Lagardere Group or part of EADS.

 

 

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AReader

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kubrick said:

 AReader,

I don't know ze car, but I do appreshiate ze knew hairstyle. And just in cayse you vonder vhat to do vonce ze oil dries up: we could instead breed animals and slaughter zem!

I'm off vrestling viz my arm. 



 

I might have guessed someone with the name "kubrick" might be a fan of Dr Strangelove! There are so many excellent characters in that movie, here are some more pics I considered avatar appropriate.

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