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bertandnairobi

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Double-takes and lookalikes

A really great or in fact any half-decent design for a motor carriage (referred to hereinafter as "car" or vehicle") should look sufficiently distinct never to be mistaken for anything else. The Fiat Multipla and the Jaguar XJ saloons of yesteryear are nothing like each other and like nothing else (though the Multipla did look a bit like a dolphin). Sometimes a design emerges that either overtly or subtly reminds you of someone else´s car. The subtle ones give you what I call an "eye feeling" of another design and the less subtle ones just scream "I have a photocopier and I know how to use it." I´ve presented some examples below to illustrate my point. Lexus have blended various essences of Eurobarge to sculpt their leviathans while Toyota seem to apply the methods of homeopathy to water down other people´s work until the recognition is at best subliminal.

 The Renault Laguna [hereinafter the "Laguna"] today tingles and fizzes with a suggestion of Citroen. A cursory Google image search shows how coy Renault are about showing this car in black and in profile. The entire wing line is lifted from the Citroen CX and only the lights break up the effect. The kink in the chrome on the rear door seems to mumble "Ami 6" under its garlic and Petrus breath. If the badges on this car were swapped to say Citroen C5 I think it would make a lot more sense. I don´t know what to do with the actual C5 which refers to nothing ever made in France.

The Alfa 6 is plainly something BMW could have thought of, down to the twin lamps, prognathous snout and Jagermeister kink. The key difference is the proportions are wrong and everything fell off the car within minutes of turning the key.

Lastly, the Audi A5 sportback. This is a subtle one but if the roofline was transposed on the Citroen C6 the C6 would be the better for it. As it is the A5 looks like the kind of car the French would like to do but don´t have the self-control for. I like the A5 apart from its woeful packagíng and dreary interior and terrible ride.

Have you any such examples you would like to share with us here at the forum? Our telephone lines are open and any calls will be recorded for quality purposes but above all for your comfort and safety.

B&N

 

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seant

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seant says:

Re: Double-takes and lookalikes

Although he only has the Tatra 77 of the 1930s to his name as a production car, ex Zeppelin designer Paul Jaray was remarkably influential in introducing streamlining so could, very reasonably, be seen as the father of the aerodynamic car. In terms of links Jaray > Tatra > Beetle > Porsche is direct, and many others were heavy influences, as shown in your illustrations.
 

I had a poster of the Pirana on my wall as a teenager and thought it a wonderfully futuristic thing but, when I saw pictures of it a couple of years ago, it's proportions and detailing had not aged nearly as well as the Espada, which still does look great.

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AReader

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Agreed about Pirana vs Espada.  A side by side comparison of the Pirana and the Jaguar E-Type reveals the problem. The Pirana does not work because it shares proportions with the E-Type upon which it was based. Sometimes I feel the E-Type itself looks a bit ungainly, but it survives because it's such a curvaceous car. The slab like Pirana can't pull it off - there is just too much length between the front axle and the base of the windscreen, and this long low hood is not balanced by the back of the car which, partly because of the shape of the rear quater window, is too heavy and tall. Well, at least that is my opinion for what it is worth i.e. 10 cents (non redeemable).

And agreed about Jaray too! Paul Jaray and Wunibald Kamm were sort of the Otto and Diesel of the early aero world.

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AReader

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The Maserati Ghibli is from the same era as the Pirana and much prettier.

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AReader

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Fiat Cinquecento    +   VW Up!

1991 meets 2011

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AReader

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No matter which way you look at it, the front of the new Kuga looks like an overdone Audi.

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seant

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seant says:

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Jowly Jag

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robinstp

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just surfing a bit and came up with these two!!

The venerable (rubbish but great engine) standard vanguard cicru about 1951 and the even older Gaz Victory ("Pobeda")

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time to move over

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AReader

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seant said:

Jowly Jag



 

 

Not the cat's whiskers anymore then?

Jag used to look like a cat on the prowl, but now it's the jowls on a dog.

Thanks seant. This reminds me of the earlier days on this thread when we were a bit more light hearted

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AReader

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Thanks robinstp - you have added to my list of modern looking flat sided cars post WWII. The Standard Vanguard must have appeared quite futuristic when it was launched in the UK. By the time I started to be interested in cars, Standard was long gone. I suppose British kids these days might feel the same way about Rover, which stopped making cars before they became car aware. It's wierd to think what a different view today's youngsters must have of the car world.

The LA Show looks quite exciting, and the new Ford Escape (Kuga) is the biggest news from a US sales point of view of all the new product being shown. The current Escape has been one of Ford's top sellers here in recent years. The outgoing model has been relatively unchanged for about 12 years - there being only one facelift that I can remember, and that was just sheet metal - the vehicle size and greenhouse appeared to stay the same. So suddenly Ford is bringing what was a very traditional 90s looking SUV right up to date with the new model. It will be interesting to see how the new one sells. One significant change appears to be that there will be no V6 available on the new model. The old one could be had with a 3.0L Duratec V6. Just another sign of how the US market has been changing in the last 10 years! The Ecoboost engines announced are expected to give the Ford an advantage in mpg. Reports suggest that Ford is set to use fuel economy as the USP for the new Escape. Let the advertising wars commence!

Honda will be launching their new CR-V here next year too, and both SUVs look quite similar from the side. They both feature strong character lines down the sides, and the fronts and rears are both bold.

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