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Jaguar XF 2.2D (2011) CAR review

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chrisward1978

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RE: Jaguar XF 2.2 D facelift (2011) CAR review

Right car, wrong time; this should have been out at launch. Let's hope the facelift is notable enough to pull those user-choosers into the Jaguar showrooms.

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jer

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RE: Jaguar XF 2.2 D facelift (2011) CAR review

Same near as damint engine stats. It would not effect my choice. Wonder what the real world optioned discounted price difference will be? the 520d is one of BMs best value cars. 

Strange that the extra torque does not show in the figures. Must be software to launch the car or weight. Although according to EURO NCAP scales the last 5 was the same weight as an XF in 3 litre guises. 

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Halfabee

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RE: Jaguar XF 2.2 D facelift (2011) CAR review

XF still looks good to me, and at least offers something different to the 3-box alternatives from the German premium brands.   Be interesting to see what the mid-life face-lift does to keep it fresh. 

As for the 2.2D, I find the figures amazing: 0-62 in  8.5 secs and 52mpg (OK, no-one will get that in the real world) in a big Jag saloon.

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bertandnairobi

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RE: Jaguar XF 2.2 D facelift (2011) CAR review

Here´s another one of those tests of pre-production cars. I can´t fault CAR for accepting the invitation but are the manufacturers wise to offer them? The resultant articles always seem loaded with potential caveats. I´m struck by the comment that the XF is beginning to feel "dated". With car design now in a rather static phase, the model-to-model differences are becoming more and more contrived. I´d like to point out the current and previous E-class which are, to my eyes, equally convincing. Here was a car replaced by the demands of marketing not engineering. You couldn´t say that when the W-124 was replaced by the W-210, or when the first Laguna was replaced by the second iteration. In contrast, the current Laguna is not identifiably better or more modern than the last one. 

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RE: Jaguar XF 2.2 D facelift (2011) CAR review

If it pulls in more punters, the better. It may be premium but volume is just as important.

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antonyr

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RE: Jaguar XF 2.2 D facelift (2011) CAR review

This sounds the right combination to make the sight  of the refreshed XF a more common site on British and european roads  and please corporate car buyers if  a lttle late to the party. . From what you testers at Car  have told us   it sounds like the 2.2 ltr is a sucess to. I,m a little baffled why the BM sould out gun it, come   on Jaguar  you can up the anti to knock the 5  or have you a sport model to let loose on us ?.  One thing  I,m still not convinced about is the grill its still a toilet seat to me although a chrome one at that.  Is there nobody out there that can offer a after market fit one  one with a centre chrome bar  and not such a a sunken one as the current one.And surely  a pedstrian safe leaping jaguar could also be made in chrome  plated soft feel plastic  perhaps  a toy maker could come up with one ? so  good work  in progress Jaguar

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lokinen

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RE: Jaguar XF 2.2 D facelift (2011) CAR review

I do wonder if BMW are sometimes less than honest with the true facts.They put the same engines in the big 5 series and the smaller 3, but the performance figures are barely different. I do remember a conversation about this some years ago in relation to the old 4 cylinder 518i ( might have been e28) and the same engined e30 318i. It transpired that despite the on paper figures being the same, it was discovered that actually the tuning was different in the 5.

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V12 Migaloo

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RE: Jaguar XF 2.2 D facelift (2011) CAR review

Im looking forward to seeing this without the disguise. I shall be ditching the 5 series (perhaps the most over rated car in the world & my most unreliable), buying a used XJ and in three years time hopefully residuals will allow me to buy one of these.  It's about time Jaguar did a small capacity diesel as the X-type 2.2d auto was no bad car but no three series (I hate to say).  Jag should also fit this engine in the XJ & XK as well as the V8 d from the range rover, thus trippling the available demographic that would purchase their cars.

I think the pricing is about right (I was offered a new 520d for £38k LOL) but I can still see residuals being sky high in another three years (hope not!!)  The cheapest used XF after 4 years is still £15k even with over 100k miles....  £5k more then a beemer...or a Lexus.. or a Merc.  Surely something to be noted and commended.

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AnthonySoprano

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RE: Jaguar XF 2.2 D facelift (2011) CAR review

If the market is so important, why has it taken Jag so long to drop a four cylinder diesel into the XF?

Sorry Tim but your answer is pure waffle. This occurred because, until recently, Americans were running Jaguar and they didn't spot that Europeans were buying "premium" diesels in large numbers. It also explains why, until recently, Ford's diesel offerings in Europe were so dire.

 

In fairness, that kind of thing is tricky to spot. I mean, the diesel car looks identical to its petrol sibling!

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Goatboy

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RE: Jaguar XF 2.2 D facelift (2011) CAR review

Journalists will always draw comparisons - it’s their job isn’t it, but in the real world will anyone give a hoot whether the XF is better than the 5-Series or vice-versa? Most XF’s sold in the UK will be to company users who will choose the car that appeals most to them as long as it’s within budget. Providing Jaguar can make the numbers work, they should have a success on their hands, in these Islands at least.
It is a pity it has taken so long to get this installation production-ready but it should be remembered that Jaguar are operating on a miniscule R&D budget by comparison to their German arch-rivals. That they manage to get so close to them dynamically and technologically is something of an achievement and one that should perhaps be better acknowledged.

On my daily commute through London, XF’s are now a very common sight. It is apparent to me that this car has been a success for Jaguar. The smaller engine can only enhance it’s appeal and the nose-job should finally exorcise the ghost of the C-XF concept.

The only serious question for me at least is how Jaguar can sustain the XF’s appeal until 2014, when the it’s aluminium bodied successor arrives?

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